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发表于 2009-11-22 03:15    IP属地:未知

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二保归来,再谈保养(多图及对比国外资料)
    我家的polo是2008年12月的1.4AT劲情风尚,自从进了家门一直好生对待。精米细粮从不怠慢,喝壳牌97#,灰壳润滑心脏。自7200km首保以来已经迈入了15000km。最近忽闻上海大众搞冬季关爱便带着她做第二次身体检查。到了4S却得知这家店不参加工时费打折活动,害得我只能办了张2年有效的会员卡(150大元,享受免费救援、每年一次四轮定位、冷暖风系统检查、积分换礼品、工时费打九折等),保养共花了我752大元。
    在深得各位前辈心得,览遍所有关于发动机机油使用相关帖子之后,我也在想到底该选择什么样的机油合适,总得给自己找个理由(当然我选择灰壳的原因是来自各位坛友的发帖)。
   左思又想,还是看看说明吧……


   
    这其中最关键的是灰壳符合VW 504.00标准。
左翻右找,找到一些资料仅供大家参考。

VW500.00
:除非车辆本身注明须使用其他规范之机油,否则可适用于19998月出厂前VW/AUDI全车系汽油引擎。
VW502.00
:针对严苛环境设定的规范,设用于诸如高气温、潮湿、爬坡及经常在市内走走停停等驾驶环境中使用。
VW503.00
:本规范有2大重点,一是加长换油周期”,可以15千公里一换,二是S4RS4TTS3等输出超过180HP之性能引擎, 依其特殊润滑需求制定的特殊规范。
VW503.01:除了503.00所涵盖的规范之外,加强了V8W12等多气缸、大排量引擎需求的润滑等级。

VW504.00
:汽油引擎规范中的最新标准,除涵盖以上标准之外,还加强了节省燃油、清静排气、清洁引擎内部等功效。
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发表于 2009-11-22 03:16    IP属地:未知


2009年4月首保时剩下的半瓶

上面那半瓶忘带了,昨天二保又剩下半瓶(上海大众标签改了)
    在参考以上说明的同时,又参考了Shell的官方网站(*****),其中 Shell Helix Ultra 又分为 VX 5W-30、AP 5W-30、AG 5W-30、AX 5W-30、AC 0W-30,五类产品。

产品类别

适用车型

VX 5W-30VW, Audi, Skoda and SEAT engines
AP 5W-30BMW
AG 5W-30Vauxhall/Opel
AX 5W-30Mercedes Benz
AC 0W-30Saab turbo charged engines, some Honda, Toyota and Volvo cars

其中对于 Shell Helix Ultra 特点与优点的介绍见下表

Shell Helix Ultra Features and Benefits


壳牌超凡喜力的特点与优点


特点


优点


Special active cleansing agents


特殊的活跃清洁因子


Maximum engine clean-up to continuously lock away harmful dirt and deposits (Up to 75% better engine cleansing than Shell Helix Plus)


通过不断降低有害污物与沉淀物达到对引擎的最大清洁(对比壳牌非凡喜力,清洁力提升75%)


Remarkable long-term oxidation stability, preventing oil degradation


显著而长期的氧化稳定性,防止润滑油降解


Extended engine protection (Up to 47% more protection than Shell Helix Plus. Up to 37% more protection than other fully synthetic leading brands tested)


延长对发动机的保护(对比壳牌非凡喜力可提升47%以上的发动机保护,对比其他知名品牌的测试结果可提升37%以上的发动机保护。)


High shear stability to maintain viscosity (126% more than Shell Helix Plus)


高剪切稳定性以保持粘度


Helps your oil stay on grade to protect your engine from oil thinning


使润滑油保持品质,防止因润滑油稀释而造成的发动机损害。


Minimises vibration & engine noise


最大限度地减少震动和发动机噪音


Smoother, quieter drive


更平稳、安静的驾驶


Low viscocity, rapid oil flow & low friction


低粘度,高流动性与低摩擦力


Greater fuel efficiency


节省燃油


Developed with Ferrari to ensure your engine is clean & protected


与法拉利共同开发,确保您的引擎清洁与安全


Allows your engine to work at maximum performance


可使您的引擎发挥最大性能



    以上资料可见Shell Helix Ultra VX 5W-30这款机油是Shell专为大众旗下车型发动机特别制定的润滑油,虽然上面表格里的资料是来自于Shell自己的官方网站,或许有过度宣传的嫌疑,但国外厂商对顾客的诚信度还是比较值得我们信赖的。既然Shell对不同的车型区分开了机油产品,那一定有其道理,相信能够对发动机提供更好的保护。
    总的来说polo是一款好车,我觉得更好的保养要比改装来的实在,我们好好待她,她才会更好的服务于我们,尽己所能保养好自己的爱车,我想这也是每一位坛友的心愿。
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发表于 2009-11-22 06:24    IP属地:未知

顶了 ~~
学习了 ~~~

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发表于 2009-11-22 07:13    IP属地:未知

如果真的一万五一换是很值得的。从经济考虑
《独唱团》。。。。

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发表于 2009-11-22 10:30    IP属地:未知

原帖由 dbyz 于 09-11-22 07:13 发表
如果真的一万五一换是很值得的。从经济考虑
这是2008年6月印刷,第四版polo中文说明书中的内容



从中文版说明书中的描述可见,无论是保养自动提醒功能还是保养项目中的保养里程都是按照15000km设置的,相信像大众这样的汽车厂商在投放polo到中国市场前一定会做大量的车辆适应性工作,但中文说明中所提及的“正常行驶情况”与“适用条件比较恶劣”、“灰尘较大环境”究竟该如何区分,我想这正是困惑我们的地方。如果polo在投放中国市场前所做的车辆道路试验是针对中国大部分道路情况进行的,那么除我国在地理环境上属于较寒冷的地区外,其余地区应均属于“正常行驶情况”的地区。
那么让我们来看一下大众英国官网中关于界定保养间隔的描述。


    大众英国官网将确定保养周期分成两种模式,其一“行驶里程与时间制”,其二“长效保养制”。根据对这两种保养制的具体描述来看,我们绝大多数车友应该属于“长效保养制”,其描述为每天大致行驶25公里、常规的长距离行驶(我想应该是相对于发动机没有到达正常工作温度的短途行驶)、行驶在发动机以最小牵引力与负荷下的匀速驾驶、经济型的驾驶风格,同时使用VW指定的长效润滑油及具备发动机油品检测能力。具备了以上条件便可以在最大18000公里或24个月(先到为准)的情况下进行保养。
    至此,即便我们的道路环境和空气环境不如英国(都能开奥运,我觉得都一样!),大众在中文版说明书中已经将保养里程降低到15000公里,可见这已经是对中国路况进行优化后的结果了。
    只要对车辆进行良好的保养(没有多少人天天开土路、山路吧~~),再保守一点儿10000公里一保是绝对没问题的!

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发表于 2009-11-22 11:44    IP属地:未知

这是日本VW车上的机油保养提示贴纸,推荐车主使用Castrol机油


一位日本VW用户在博客中写到“フォルクスワーゲン(VW)も15,000kmごとのオイル交換を推奨しているので、それを信じている。”(*****)可见VW在日本也是推荐15000公里一保的,这和中文版说明书中的要求是一致的。既然VW规定日本地区的VW车都得15000公里一保,那么我门这里自然也是没问题的。

2007年九月VW英国官网公布的关于“长效保养”的想详细说明(*****)





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发表于 2009-11-22 11:55    IP属地:未知

英国VW官网2007年九月发布的关于“长效保养”的详细说明(*****)

LongLife Servicing and Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow Longlife III

How advanced engineering and oil has changed the way your Volkswagen is serviced.

LongLife Service regimes

The LongLife Service regime is so called because there are no set service intervals and, depending on how you drive your vehicle, and the conditions of use, a service will be required anywhere between 9,000 miles or 12 months (whichever occurs first), up to a maximum of 20,000* miles or 24 months (whichever occurs first).

This LongLife service regime has been made possible due to the development of new Volkswagen engines with the latest technically advanced LongLife oil. These engines use built-in sensors that continually monitor the oil quality, making it possible to enjoy reliable and confident motoring for up to a maximum of 20,000* miles or 24 months (whichever occurs first).

*Please consult your Volkswagen Retailer or repairer for full information.

It’s your choice

All new Volkswagen cars (except Fox) are now manufactured with the LongLife Service regime activated and the engine filled with Castrol LongLife oil. However, your car is also capable of being serviced at a more traditional time of 12 months or 10,000 miles (which ever occurs first), this regime is known as Time and Distance. Your Retailer will explain both systems and can reset your car to the Time and Distance regime at the Pre Delivery Inspection if you wish. Whichever regime you choose, the vehicle dashboard service indicator will remind you when the service is due. With the LongLife service regime it could be anywhere between 9,000 miles or 12 months up to a maximum of 20,000* miles or 24 months, depending on the way the car is driven and/or its operating environment. The Time and Distance regime will be around 10,000 miles or 12 months (which ever occurs first).

What LongLife Servicing can mean to you

• Fewer visits to your Retailers or repairer’s workshop.

• Lower lifetime service costs.

• Less oil to dispose of, an environmental benefit.

• Fuel saving.


Your Retailer will have a calculation available that can illustrate the likely savings you will make on both the maintenance of your vehicle and the fuel bill using either the LongLife or Time and Distance regimes.

Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow LongLife III engine oil

Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow LongLife III has been co-engineered with Volkswagen and uses Clean Performance Technology™ to give you a low level of emissions resulting in a clean car and clean air. The combination of Castrol oil and the Volkswagen Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) reduces ash deposits by up to 50% when compared to some other fully synthetic engine oils, thereby helping to prolong the life of the filter.


Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow LongLife III top up kits

In the event that you need to top up the engine oil between services Castrol have a Check It Kit containing:

• 1 litre of Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow LongLife III.

• Dip stick wipe.

• Disposable gloves.

• Disposable funnel.

• Contained in a black vinyl case attachable to the luggage compartment lining.

So now you can easily check your oil level and ensure that the correct oil is used

These kits are available from your Volkswagen Retailer.

Answers to the most frequently asked questions

Is the LongLife regime more expensive than the more traditional Time and Distance regime?

No, the basic service cost hasn’t changed, but because you need fewer services, you will save money. However, LongLife oil is more expensive than conventional oil. So, if you choose the LongLife regime, there will be a corresponding increase in the cost of the oil replaced during a service. Importantly this increased cost must be seen in context. Over a period, the reduced number of services means that the cost of ownership nearly always comes down. Your Retailer has a calculation that can illustrate the likely savings you will make on both the maintenance of your vehicle and the fuel bill.

What is LongLife III oil?

LongLife oil is a high grade, fully synthetic oil with increased resistance to ageing at high temperatures. When LongLife servicing was originally introduced it was generally designated SAE 0W-30 and met Volkswagen standards 503 00 for petrol engines and 506 00 and later 506 01 for diesel engines. With the introduction of new emission limits for passenger cars in 2005 requiring the fitment of exhaust gas after-treatment devices, Volkswagen have upgraded their LongLife specifications to 504 00 for petrol and 507 00 for diesel. LongLife oils meeting 504 00/507 00 are now SAE 5W-30 viscosity. Apart from a few exceptions*, these new specifications replace the earlier 503 00/506 00/506 01 specifications. Oils meeting the new specifications are designed to work with the latest emissions control equipment, such as diesel particulate filters (DPF). Use of oil which only meets earlier LongLife specifications can halve the life of a DPF.

*All diesel vehicles fitted with R5 (5 cylinder) and 5.0ltr V10 engines and manufactured prior to 1 January 2006, cannot use oils meeting Volkswagen standard 507 00 even if equipped with a DPF. These engines should use oils meeting Volkswagen standard 506 01 (eg. Castrol Professional Longtec LongLife II 0W-30) for both LongLife and Time and Distance servicing regimes.

Important note

In order to maximise the life of the DPF, all DPF equipped Volkswagen vehicles (except pre 2006 R5 and V10 engines) must use an engine oil meeting the new 507 00 specification even when on Time and Distance servicing regime.

Do I have to use LongLife oil all the time?

Yes. If you want to take advantage of the LongLife service regime. Please note that if the engine is topped up with more than ½ litre of non-LongLife oil between services, the service indicator will come on earlier and the time or distance between services will be reduced.

Can I really save money on my fuel bill?

Yes. Extensive tests carried out by Volkswagen have demonstrated that Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow LongLife III provides improved fuel economy - equivalent to 10 miles extra per tank on the Volkswagen Passat 2.0 FSI (UK spec) compared to a 15W-40 viscosity oil.

If I am on the LongLife service regime, I might not have my car serviced for up to 2 years; will this affect my warranty?

No. The warranty covers against defects of manufacture. However, if a component fails due to your car not being serviced to the Volkswagen recommendations, then this is not covered by the warranty.

I am concerned that my car can be used on the road for 2 years without any safety checks.

Many components are far longer lasting than they used to be. The front brake pads are electronically monitored, as is the engine oil level. The battery is maintenance free. Tyres are the most vulnerable item and you have an obligation to check these on a regular basis.

The instruction manual explains that the service indicator can be reset via the trip display button.

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发表于 2009-11-22 12:39    IP属地:未知

国外的空气质量比国内(不包括为OY特别的环境)好很多, 全合成机油1万一换应该可以....

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发表于 2009-11-22 12:54    IP属地:未知

这个太专业,完全超出知识范围之外了
凡所有相,皆是虚妄,若见诸相非相,即见如来.      BG4 EWZ

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发表于 2009-11-22 13:09    IP属地:未知

感觉在机油广告!

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